When the second RSA press discussion was organised Z/Yen was asked to chair the meeting in front of 40 international journalists. The topic was electronic identity and the panel consisted of leading lights in the Liberty Alliance (United Airlines, Nokia, Deloittes, PWC and RSA) and Microsoft. The chair reminded the Alliance members that standards were all very well, but more customers would be valuable; while simultaneously suggesting to Microsoft that customers are good, but open standards grow markets.The discussion ended with the Liberty Alliance agreeing they wanted more customers and Microsoft stating that they would consider joining the Alliance.